tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695736990039545823.post500302900658965604..comments2021-12-01T02:35:42.127-05:00Comments on William Wolfe's Den: FTA: What makes a great fictional Villian?Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14093997168286551055noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695736990039545823.post-36748987631076087062010-05-27T16:59:08.110-04:002010-05-27T16:59:08.110-04:00Uh am I allowed to say Spike in Buffy cause he'...Uh am I allowed to say Spike in Buffy cause he's hot? hehe.<br><br>Hmm. I always prefer villains who are sympathetic, I like to see their motives and what makes them tick, other than being simply super evil a la Sauron. <br><br>It is always interesting to me to see a movie for example where the line between 'hero' and 'villain' is not really clear, two non fantasy ones that come to mind here are Heat and American Gangster. <br><br>In terms of fantasy fiction, I really love Melisandre in the Kushiel Series her character is quite mesmerising, and in GRR Martin's series I am currently reading I have to say Tyrion is one of my favourites, even though I suppose technically he is a 'baddie'.<br><br>I'm sure more will come to mind, but for me a great villain is someone who you can indentify with, even like in some way, or at least have an appreciation for their evil-ness.<br><br>:-)Rainenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695736990039545823.post-61365574173105544462010-05-27T22:10:15.598-04:002010-05-27T22:10:15.598-04:00http://www.listal.com/list/listals-50-movie-villai...http://www.listal.com/list/listals-50-movie-villains-would<br><br>Villains are often my favorite characters, in any plot. I can't pick just one, as per my usual. ;)<br><br>I've not thought of Nature as a villain...more a circumstance, I guess.Luna Mauvaisehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18005931883083144043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695736990039545823.post-87869965713345702102010-05-29T13:18:29.431-04:002010-05-29T13:18:29.431-04:00Raine: Yes, American Gangster was a brilliant port...Raine: Yes, American Gangster was a brilliant portrayal. Spike? I didn't watch Buffy, but in Angel, he was more "anti-hero" than villian. <br><br>I'm looking forward to more Melisandre.<br><br>Tyrion is a great choice, because his lines get increasingly grey as the story progresses. Likewise, I daresay, for Jaime Lannister. I say only, "you'll see what I mean." ;-)<br><br>Luna: As I'm writing in the context of an Elemental world, and balances, 'natural' villians are a consideration. But, what I mean is Nature's responses to humanoid tendencies. <br><br>Oddly, many ancient myths explore what Tolkien did more famously with Ents. Off the cuff, I want to cite Dryads as a nature biased, semi-intelligent creature. Or perhaps mermaids/sirens in a more regimented view. <br><br>Assuming a force can control natural events, and a collective society will enforce their world view (i.e., dryads protect their forests at all costs, mermaids protect their waters the same), if it is against the protagonists want/need in the tale, that becomes a conflict. <br><br>Actually, speaking of Carey, her first book had an elemental sort of villian towards the end, who had to be negotiated with to earn passage, and that came with cost.Billhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14093997168286551055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695736990039545823.post-53051216696732428792010-06-17T21:49:16.737-04:002010-06-17T21:49:16.737-04:00I have to admit I'm far more interested in &qu...I have to admit I'm far more interested in "antagonists" than "evil." I like conflict but I'm not as interested in themes like the "battle between good and evil" where there is an evil force or character opposing the protagonist, so I'm not sure I have any real favourites in that sense.Kerihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02798087116747300452noreply@blogger.com